TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. Were talking about the difference of maybe a day. What it really means to speak the truth in love, one post read. Guard your heart and keep it diligentlyfor from it flows the content of your life. And many who have followed this story know what James McDonald has done. I mean, again, it was a meeting into the wee hours of the night, early morning. In an email to The Roys Report (TRR), Vernick noted that in the Old Testament, Abigail, the wife of the boorish and immature, Nabal, was a strong woman, married to a weak characterand she wasnt toxic. I encourage you to talk to Christian doctors who are fearful of extreme under no circumstances legislation that now forces molested preteens to give birth, and makes it difficult to treat a septic But, at whatever time it was, you know, midnight in India or something sitting in the lobby, I sent an email, put my name on it, heres my statement. He had joined, I think a year into, into Harvests history. Julie can and has spoken for herself, but I must speak up against loaded questions like this. Great! It was demonic. While we were doing that, I was in my office at home. Harvest Insider Tells What Really Happened with James MacDonald. In that same meeting that same Thursday night, he argued, the elders shouldnt have the letters. What Happens Now? This is going amongst the elders now. And with that opening, I felt like it was confirmed. I pray for the man. This wasnt anything else. I remember praying before the Harvest Elgin campus as a garage, and its a former corporate space. . He was the senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel megachurch in Rolling Meadows, Illinois, United States [1] [2] and was the host for the church's former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word . Thanks that is hilarious!! Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. The fruit which was souls coming to Christ was enormous. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. (We're a church of around 4,000 members & regular attenders.) We all need to do it together, etc, etc. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet., We are meant to set aside power and authority and serve one another (Matthew 20:25-28) as we are partnered together (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12), Gregoire added. But by the time we were done that night, the decision that night was two things. I did not. On Thursday, the seventh, I got a text from one of the elders who said, Call me if you can before such and such a time. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. Like, I cant believe this. Her articles have appeared in numerous periodicals. And this is when everything really started happening. It was a conference call because it happened fast. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . Right? I mean, here he is in Haiti, thats just been wracked by an earthquake, unbelievable poverty and devastation. If hes fired, and its in the church is very clear on him being fired and disqualified for ministry. And man, if you go back and listen to this morning, morning show I I just, I remember turning on the radio and hearing this, you know, Old MacDonald had a call, e-i, e-i, o This young man had put together it only Mancow can can deliver something the way that he does. The leaders were brought together. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? Good to be here. Tell me about that meeting and what he did. So he was fired. And his email says, it seems we are being targeted. Hi. And from the video that he recorded with James, it sounds like the spin is that James was actually guilty. Malachi 2:16 has been harmfully interpreted & practiced based on twisted translations, Malachi 2 clearly talks about husbands dealing treacherously w their wives these husbands are the ones who hate and divorce 16 The man who hates and divorces his wife, says the Lord, the God of Israel, does violence to the one he should protect, says the Lord Almighty. Ive looked back at that email thread, Ron Duitsman who was the elder board chairman, resigned that day. On February 13, the elders announced James MacDonald had been fired . And again, Im going from memory, but also from what Ron Duitsman recently said. We had a group of Pastors who interviewed him and he gave us free tickets to his Straight Up conference. But I think my kat has watched too much Kenneth Copeland. You know, Ive been here the whole time. Theres 30 men in the room. I mean, just stuff that you just cant even fathom comes from a man who supposedly is a man of God, a preacher of the gospel. . Sin has real consequences and sometimes those consequences are permanent. I remember that too. You dont know how I got ahold of them. harmful to the best interests, Disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, continued his tirade against me and The Roys Report on Tuesday, repeatedly calling me #JRgossipslut and asserting that I am, According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. If not, youre probably looking at what Paul latter in the chapter describes as an immature child. However, an email that I got, that Duitsman had sent out and then it was leaked to me, said that what Duitsman was upset about was the fact that the elders were admitting that they had failed. You can review it. How about that one? So appreciate that and appreciate your humility. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. Julie Roys October 8, 2020. There were six people who were brave enough, vulnerable enough to write letters. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attentionnot just for his new partnership, but also his provocative social media posts about women and marriage. And I thought, Oh, my gosh! So who is he talking about? How about it James McDonald and John MacArthur (and the like), how about it? I payed for you and James. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. And Im just trying to smear him. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. SMH. James MacDonald and His Earlier Attacks on Julie Roys. He was like he started appealing the process. Hes a large imposing man. Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. And that would have been right before you came back on the board. And lets just, for people who dont know, tell them who Rick Donald is and the position he held and his relation to James McDonald. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. I stepped into a conference room. Hes asking for money. Hi. We had to deal with it. I believe the board was deceived by Satan. All my legal fees got paid. As youll hear in this podcast, there was a strong push to suppress those letters by those loyal to James McDonald. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Hes talking about James McDonald, but not calling him out by name. The Roys Report is a Christian media outlet, reporting the unvarnished truth about what's happening in the Christian community so the church can be reformed and restored. Again, youre seeing it from a total other perspective where Im the bad guy, James is a good guy. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. I said, I will confess my transgression to the Lord, and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. But so much else not owned. And I dont know what his exact words were, but it was basically dont you dare read scripture to me. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, hes a victim of defamation by an envious childand needs your money to rebuild.. Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? https://biblehub.com/hebrew/898.htm bagad (treachery aka abuse) is used FIVE times in Malachi 2:10-16!!! And then he apologized. Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. From the overflow of your heart your mouth (and thumbs) are speaking. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. Theres a number of narratives out there right now about how these letters came to the elder board. A man of God who just wanted to take a vacation with his family, has the right to use church money which is his only source of income. She wanted me to look at it. And if I would, you know, post some sort of statement. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. God will deal with him. So its critically important that the truth be told. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. And I did it. ARC is one of the largest church planting organizations in North America. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? I knew letters were coming to the elder board per First Timothy 5. So lets move on to these letters. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And I was muted on my phone. It was positioned as an attack because the ministry was growing and those people were bitter, etc. And I sat and prayed. And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . And I know it was a battle. And you know, Rick Donald was one of the people. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. James Macdonald is a wolf and sadly so many have been fooled by this charlatan. Instead of focusing on who is stronger and who is weaker, why dont we focus on how both of us can be strong for the kingdom and live out the calling that God has given to each of us individually and as a couple?, Visconti also posted recently on his Instagram story that abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. I dont know how the person who gave them to me got them. Judson University is shaping lives that shape the world. Yeah. She sends it to me and I wrote it. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. This was months months later. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader and was misleading us in a very unqualified way. She also previously hosted a national talk show on the Moody Radio Network, called Up for Debate, and has worked as a TV reporter for a CBS affiliate. I knew I had to do it. Tragically . I called him. I acknowledge my sin to you. I was thrown out of the church we gave our lives to by a group of rogue leaders, MacDonald writes. I was there at HBC & witnessed it. The devil is at work. Is that an accurate representation? But it happened to me in the meeting where I raised a couple things and James McDonald is like, I dont remember that. Think of the godly ones youve known and thank God for them. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. But for us not to act would be unbelief. The only joy in doing this is we would be obeying Gods word. I think of the timing, I think it was earlier that day, that I actually I sent I had sent Sandys letter out, because Sandy sent, she addressed her letter to the elder board. And remember, a week before the decision had been made, in terms of not qualified as an elder and his employment would be over. Why is that? Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. And I gotta tell you, the people of Harvest, the people who were there before, the people who were still there, were so forgiving. It didnt sit right with me when I heard about it, that the church was suing you, and the Mahoneys, and the Bryants. Because Julie, I knew that, even if Id gotten the chance to read it in front of Harvest, which would have been really hard, but would have been healing to people. uterus or clean out a womb after a stillbirth (because these treatments are labeled abortions, and even that word brings out comments like yours). Imagine such a thing. At least some did. No, its not how it went down, Julie. But one of the circumstances hes talking about, hes talking about something specific where Id stood up for him in a meeting years ago. It is grounds for separation but not divorce., This view is popular in fundamentalist Christian circles. I wish I didnt. *Correction: A previous version of this story incorrectly reported that Visconti and Generation Church had deleted their social media accounts. We are so embarrassed and disgusted by his gross actions in the last 30 years. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James McDonald? And I stopped my car. To donate, click here. And then if you could, please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. No, Im just reporting. And Stetzer is a huge, huge part of the crooked machine. But its also an important podcast, because as you may know, James McDonald is aggressively trying to rewrite history and relaunch his ministry. And we were at a stalemate. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. Just saying a lot of vile things. And I, the next day, I wrote and said, Well, okay, I respect your wishes. And thank you for loving our Lord and showing the way. No One Knows. Pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel filed a lawsuit this month against two ex-members and former Moody Radio host Julie Roys, accusing them of spreading false information about the . The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. Thanks for a thoughtful, educated, godly response. Unfortunately, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be a thing now. The elder board is still in the dark. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. But he said when he and Scott Phelps and Barry Slebaugh went into a meeting with James in the summer of 2012, asking for, whats your salary James? I need to repent. I had been investigating Harvest for months. And theres Ephesians 5 about exposing the unfruitful works of darkness having nothing to do with those. The whole crooked machine needs to be brought down. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. Again, James is is now saying, oh, all of that had approval. There was a push for him to be able to resign, and to negotiate on several points that we now know what have you know, let him walk away with millions of dollars. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Im gonna put it up on my Facebook page, on my blog. I had all the letters at that point. The news came less than a week after another update from Julie Roys, . Hi. And she immediately said, Ill write a letter. So this is going to be a fascinating podcast. You cant unconditionally support anybody. No One Knows. The G in freemasonry stands for generation. Why would anyone who follows Jesus Christ care what Generation Church thinks about anything? And, and the drama begins. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And that reminded me of something that Dan Marquardt told me. I remember sitting on my couch waiting to press the button to publish it. Thank you. So those letters, and I just, I had to thank you, Dan, because those letters may have never reached the full elder board had you not push the issue. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity and transparency. 1) Julie Roys. And I dont need to know. I remember one other elder leading over to me and said repentant people dont ask for money. How do you how do you do anything with 30 people? If you find yourself unaware of Then pray for all of us. The owners of Marquardt are friends of mine, Dan and Kurt Marquardt. #JRgossipslut #JRcancerinChristsbody. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. However as I grew in age and hopefully in wisdom, I consulted other versions of the Bible. If theres other passages we should be talking about, lets talk about them. So I appreciate it. It looks like these contemporary churches are just fundamentalists in different garb. And youre going to hear all about what happened in those meetings and the strong arm tactics that McDonald used to try and get his way. She gave it to me to get to the elders. Julie. But I knew I needed to do it. Ive listened to the entire recording. Because again, that was one letter that never got published and the contents, other than what Ron Duitsman said in his recent video because he actually referenced that letter. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Yet another American megachurch is immersed in accusations of wrongdoings. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. It was one of the big red flags to me, or I guess it was a yellow flag could have been a red flag, I wouldnt have done it. But according. But to also say, this was this was my fault, too. It does. And I just remember my first feeling, you know, just honestly, relief. A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. She wrote about, you alluded to it, she wrote about the end of this Risen for the Nations tour when they were in Haiti. Gary Weigel, if you total all the expenses including vet bills, it might be more than a tithe. Ostensibly, one of the assets MacDonald obtained in the arbitration settlement is the list of email addresses of former Walk in the Word supporters. None of those charges were looked into. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . @jamesmacdonald. Okay thats what Gods word says. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. So let me let me take you to February I believe is February 12. And again, youre one of the people who actually apologized for that. And this wasnt a one time thing. Rick, Donald actually had talked to me after the meeting and said, how much that meant to James. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. "I was sitting in the back seat. I look back at those meetings. I hope you have a great day and God bless. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attention . My husband really appreciates James McDonalds preaching against my better judgement I told him about the new messagesso we have the Advent message from his Home Church network cast to the TV I had planned to leave the room so I didnt have to watch it I have to tell you he sounds sincere (without wax) I find the whole situation so heart breaking and confusing. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. Not long ago, I noticed that James MacDonald is still latched onto evangelical watchdog blogger Julie Roys as his number-one. Why did you think it was important to own not just who James McDonald was, and not just point the finger at him. And were like, boy, I hate to say this, but that just felt demonic. Im sad for his fall. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center to become dean, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while pastoring at Harvest, It has been said, Show me a persons checkbook and I can tell you what he cares about. Social Action, 1964 James MacDonald, the, Christian actor Kirk Cameron on Monday featured disgraced pastor James MacDonald as a guest on Camerons TBN Takeaways program on biblical illiteracy. MacDonald was fired, Mark DeMoss, a man described by Christianity Today as Evangelicalisms PR Guru and a former Liberty University trustee, is apparently spending time with two men, Its been more than two years since Harvest Bible Chapel fired James MacDonald for engaging in conduct . I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. What is the point of bringing this pastors political views into the story? And today youre going to hear from a former insider at Harvest, former elder Dan George. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. How does this relate to his view of women? Then let me just ask you from the start, why are you doing this? He knows! Okay. Thats even though MacDonalds former megachurch, Harvest Bible Chapel, disqualified MacDonald from public ministry in 2019 for a pattern of sinful behavior.. Again, six, absolutely scathing letters. According to an independent audit of Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. No, it wasnt edited. And so I felt relief. I wish Id never done it. That this wasnt just James failure. 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Julie, are you saying that you support trans mutilation/murder of pre-born children/and are against conservatives? And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. Come out of her, my people. James MacDonald. Five of the six have been published. And Dan said it was just so unnerving. Thats what meeting and when youre in a conference called and youre making a decision like that, every elder everybody on the meeting on the call had to make right had the voice be asked any question you have. . I just know I got them. And when I read that, I just shook my head. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing.

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